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Unofficial "Notes" - State Track & Cross-Country Advisory Committee Meeting - State CIF Office - Oakland -1/14/03 - Doug Speck |
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Unofficial "Notes" - State CIF Cross-Country Track/Cross-Country advisory - Doug Speck Attendees: 1. Welcome and introductions 2. Approval of Agenda - approved 3. Approval of minutes of 10/1/02 Meeting - approved 4. State CIF update 5. Statewide electronic entries 6. Selection of Honor Coaches Cross-Country Items 7. Championship Event Review - Roger Blake - Dean Crowley - Marty
Simpson 8. Financial information - For the first time ever the total event came out in the black to the tune of about $6000. A few small bills have to be paid still. 2001 competition lost about $6000. Buchanan crew does a super job of running the admission/entrance procedures, plus better weather this year probably reasons for increased income versus 2001 (weather affected by rain). 9. Commitee Report - Updated 4 year Result History - 10. Entry formula plus numbers - 11. Awards Ceremony - some questions on the awards timeline. For the
next two years the schedule has been set up. 12. T-Shirts sales - lines long and supply short with added entrants.
Ordering can be done "on-line" next year. 13. Date - November 29th, 2003 Woodward Park - next year is the last of a 3 year contract with Fresno -$7000 from City of Fresno to offset costs and $5000 from the Visitor's Bureau - Government financial problems next few years could affect Fresno's support. Discussion - computer entries of athletes was discussed with a realization that this direction will be moved to in the future. Track and Field Items 15. Update 2003 Meeting - The Cerritos facility has been reserved for the 2003 dates. The Olympic level facility being constructed at Cal State Dominguez Hills may be considered in the future. 16. Final Financial Figures for 2002 - Friday income suffered with Games and Kings playing in the playoffs those dates. Positive income of about $30,000 was generated, and within the general State CIF budget it is expected to generate $40,000. 17. Facility Update - Bouganvillas are to be cut down at Cerritos from the Shot Put area. 18. Status of Helmets for Pole Vaulters - National Federation has mailed out flyer on helmets on the Pole Vault. No helmets are designed for the Pole Vault, but the Federation says that if you are designating that your vaulters wear them that it is recommended they wear lacrosse helmets without the protective facemask or eyeshield. Four states do now require helmets. Pit regulations - old pits cannot be used, even for practice. 19. Officials - Nor Cal 20. Addition of 4x800 and Distance Medley Relay 21. Date for 2004 - June 4-5 Sacramento Olympic Events - in National Federation by-laws only javelin is listed
as an approved event. Hammer and Steeplechase are not listed as official
events. It is felt that national federation events from the rule book be
the only ones allowed in California sanctioned affairs, and that wording
be added to the state constitution to that affect. These events should not
be held this year and the State CIF will send out a notice to that effect.
Liability concerns about use of old pole vault pits (even for practice),
hammer throw, and steeplechase competitions in sanctioned meets will be
particular points of emphasis in near future communication with the
State's Principals.
1. Hal Harkness is encouraging all section championships to be run on Hytek so that the results can be merged much easier with the CIF entries personnel. There is a statewide list of a 4-letter abbreviations for every school in the state that we would like to encourage all meet directors to use. It can be downloaded from Hal Harkness.
Boys Girls Div I 2 2 Div II 2 3 Div III 3 3 Div IV 3 3 Div V 2 3 6. There was a discussion of having a system for individuals to qualify based on the number of teams that your section qualifies: If you have 1 team qualify then the individuals must finish in the top 8 finishers 2 12 3 14 4 16 5 20 This was discussed with interest, but nothing was voted on. II Track and Field 1. The CIF meet will be held in southern California at Cerritos College. In 2004 and 2005 it will be held at Sacramento. In 2006 it will return down south but the site is not committed. The use of Cerritos is much more expensive than using Sac. State. There is a new facility being built on the campus of CS Domingues Hills as we speak. There is a new track facility with all the field events inside and 2 runways for everything that can be run in either direction, including the pole vault. There are 4 shot rings and the discus ring is on the infield. The soccer stadium will be the site of the 2005 World Cup Games. There is the possibility of using this facility by 2006. 2. Pole Vault Anyone that would like to use a helmet while pole vaulting is being encouraged to use the lacrosse helmets without the face mask. These are the only helmets in which anyone will guarantee any safety. If a coach recommends using a helmet, this is the helmet they should recommend. The athlete should take it upon themselves to decide if they want to wear a helmet since there is not true guaranteed helmet on the market right now. b. anyone using old pole vault pits that are not up to the new codes should stop and or update them. If they cannot update them, they should not be used. Your liability of using them is in your own hands now. Make sure that if you use college sites for your meets that their pits are up to code, or do not use them. 3. Officials for Sacramento CIF meet: There is a concern that the northern California officials are not accredited. If we use TAC/USA track officials, they may not be updated on all the CIF rules and may allow things to do uncalled. They may not know their total responsibilities. They are encouraging all sections to send a list of their official's organization to the CIF office so that they can be contacted about how to become accredited. b. It is encouraged that we all use at least one accredited official in our dual meets�the starter so that he/she can be the meet referee. 4.The addition of the 4X800 and Distance Medley Relays Peter Brewer brought up the possibility of running these events in the State Meet. It was brought to our attention that in order for it to be a State meet event, it needs to be run at the lower levels first. Right now, only the North Coast section is running it as an exhibition event on their Section trials day in the slot where the 2-mile would be run. They run their section championships on a 2-day event and the 2 milers do not run the first day. There are many Invitational meets in which this is already included. In the CIF rule book schedule of events it would be placed as the first event of the meet. This way, the milers and half-milers can double back. If this is of interest, you will need to talk to your section office. 5. The running of the steeplechase and hammer competitions As of right now, there is no support from the National Federation for the running of these two events. This includes the training for these events. If an athlete were to be injured in these events, there would be trouble for the meet director and coach who allowed the running of these events. When Hal Harkness brought this up for discussion, he did so because someone asked about having the steeplechase in their meet. He told us that if he were to allow this to happen that he would lose his seat on the National Advisory Rule Board and as our state representative, we would no longer have a say in the National Federation Rules. I guess that basketball has done this and lost representation. In the CCS, the West Valley Relays runs a steeplechase event. It is encouraged by all of us that we no longer participate in that event. If they want to do it during the summer in club track then go right ahead. 6.Throwing sectors: Just a heads up: the IAAF has decreased their throwing sectors to 34.9* because it is much easier to measure them. There is a possibility that we may be using this soon. If you have any concerns that you would like raised at this meeting in September or would like to give input on these issues, you can contact me at: [email protected].
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Editors: Doug Speck and
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